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mitchell reports."" right now on "andrea mitchell reports," breaking news, conducted after the "access hollywood" showing hillary clinton nearly doubling her lead among likely voters and a negative reaction to trump's comments on the tape. now, with a steep mountain to climb, trump hardly contrite. >> this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. >> he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. but i think it is clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. >> it is just words, folks. is just words. >> up close and personal, how will voters respond to trump's stunt, bringing bill clinton's accusers into the debate hall
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setting up a tense confrontation. the rivals not even shaking hand. >> how do you think you did? >> you know, i pretty much saw what i expected to see, and that's why, you know, the first thing i said was this is something that i've been saying since june, that he is not fit to be president and commander in chief. and trump or bust. did trump's aggressive performance create new problems for republicans, reassuring the base. but today, speaker paul ryan says he will no longer defend his party's candidate for president. instead, solely focus on keeping the house. but attacks like this that thrill trump's bait. >> if i win, i am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation, because there has never been so many lies, so much deception.
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>> it is just awfully good someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you would be in jail. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell, at the airport, waiting for hillary clinton, a cold windy day here. breaking news this hour. political news that could spell disaster for donald trump and vulnerable incumbents in november. the new poll out this hour conducted after release of the 2005 access hollywood footage. before sunday's debate, hillary clinton opening up a big national lead of 11 points with likely voters. the head to head matchup is even uglier for trump, down 14 points.
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congressional republicans are feeling the trump effect. 49% of respondents now favor a democratically controlled congress. the 7.2 lead seven point lead h their largest. joining me now, chuck todd, modera moderator of "meet the press." chuck, this is a big swing and doesn't show the effects of the debate, but take us behind the numbers and what you're seeing in this poll. >> let me give a couple of caveats. this a very quick snapshot, okay, national survey over a two day period, very quickly, 500 voters, but statistically modelled just like all of our other nbc wall street numbers, and we are staying in the field continuing to poll all week long. but let me tell you the significance of this. what this poll shows is that provides the explanation why so many republicans fleed trump on
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saturday right after this happened. you saw an instant reaction here. you're seeing the doubling of the vote and you're seeing what we saw in the generic ballot. this is why paul ryan said what he said. he is not going to defend trump, nor he is going to unendorse him. which means he knows it is a terrible position to be him. he has made the decision, he'll take the arrows, so everybody does in the conference does whatever is in their best interest. if they think they've got to run away from trump and denounce him, do it. and they'll be no repercussions. same with the ones that feel they have to stick by him for their own reasons. it is a little late in the game. there is a lot more panic. i can tell you among house republicans about what's going on these days than it is with senate republicans. for one reason. senate republicans have been more prepared for this moment. they have been sort of realizing this moment could come at any time, particularly for these
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senate candidates in blue states. so they've been preparing longer to at least have a battle plan in place to deal with this, what they now know what they have to deal with, every republican for themselves. >> let's talk about the house, because the senate always was in play. they were more republican senate seats up for grabs, as you well know. and we've seen what richard bur and pat toomey and kelly ayotte and others have been doing. what about the house, it was never thought they could even reach to the possibility of taking back the house? >> here is how waves happen. this is what happened in '06 and this is what happened in '10, which is you don't just have enthusiasm on one side voting for a political party. you have depression on the other side of the party that's feeling under siege. and that is why there is now panic among house republicans, that you will have a new swath of moderate conservatives, okay,
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not the people we've been describing in the suburban swing districts, but maybe the next level, the devoted republicans who just morally can't bring themselves to vote for trump, and maybe they're just to the point where they can't bring themselves to participate in this election any more. that is the big fear here. that's where this becomes a cliff potentially for the republican party, particularly on the house side. that's how suddenly the house co comes into play. >> i want to play a little bit from last night. there was this exchange where donald trump talked about hillary clinton's e-mails, and threatened prosecution if he wins the election. obviously thrilling the base. play it. >> if i win, i am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation, because there has never been so many lies, so much deception, there
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has never been anything like it, and we're going to have a special prosecutor. there has never been anything like this, where e-mails and you get a subpoena, you get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena, you delete 33,000 e-mails. >> everything he just said is absolutely fraulalse but i'm no surprised. it is awfully good with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you would be in jail. >> secretary clinton -- >> chuck, that raised a lot of eyebrows, what happens in iraq, if you win an election, you lockup your opponent. >> only in a third world country, and only in the sort of the mind of some sort of movie writer of a third world democracy or dictatorship would you have a candidate publicly humiliate a former occupant of
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that office by parading all of these other people around as well. it was sort of -- it is and will remain now the single most surreal presidential debate in american history and only remembered for two things. trump's decision to bring out bill clinton's accusers, and that moment, the clip you just played on the jail card. which brings me to a final point. for a couple of months, reince priebus wants to argue it is choosing time, you have to pick between trump and clinton if you want to protect the supreme court, protect the house majority, things like that. now it is a whole different ball game. it is now choosing time inside the republican party. and essentially, you've got trumpbaits supporters, and then on the other side, a bunch of republicans who feel as if they have to choose between trump and the republican party.
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that the who can't coexist. >> this really is a turning point, a fork in the road for the republican party as we know it. chuck todd, thanks so much. thank you for breaking down the numbers, and all of the context. it tells us this is a real challenge for donald trump going forward. let's turn to the reporters, kristin welker in st. louis, kel kelly o'donnell in north carolina, and nbc national correspondent, peter alexander. peter, first to you, you've been looking at the republican party and the divisions as well. what strikes you coming out of this debate and going into the final 32 days? >> reporter: i think what strikes me is just the tightening of this advice for so many of the republicans right now who rely on the base to help put them in a position to on competitive, but then they need the moderate republicans, suburban women to come on board to ultimately win in a lot of these races.
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gerrymandering which are heavily republican, but other place where is there are tight races, and also certainly states right now where a lot of senators, pat toomey, marco rubio, burr in north carolina, facing challenges today. they're going to have answer for donald trump's comments late last week and this is the position that they find themselves with only four weeks to go, if they don't say anything about donald trump, if in fact they try to hide from it, they're going to be forced to face this trump effectively not saying no to donald trump. the remaining 29 days. if they say no to donald trump, and they risk having the experience of paul ryan when he was in wisconsin after uninviting donald trump, where he heard some heckling and boos from the crowd rightthere. it is a real challenging position for so many republicans, particularly with so little time remaining. >> kristin welker, we were talking with officials in st. louis and on the plane
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flying home here as well. when we talked to them, kristin, they are trying to be very, very cautious, they've seen ups and downs in the campaign, they don't know what else is coming out and there is the issue of more e-mails and more e-mail today, we know by wikileaks into the campaign chairman, john podesto's gmail account and 2,000 pages to pour through. >> reporter: right, and we are looking through those pages as well. no bombshells yet, andrea, and no transcripts in these new releases. it appears at this point, whereas on friday, of course, we did get some of secretary clinton's transcripts from the speeches she gave, including one in which she talked about politicians needs to be a little different in public than they are in private. she was put on defense about that last night. and that's something that could continue to overshadow her campaign and that's just one reason why the clinton campaign
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is being so cautious, andrea. that's the word i would use as well. i spoke with one top official who told me they are not celebrating. they look at these new poll numbers, and they're essentially trying to tune them out, because donald trump is a candidate who has been carried out so many times before, during the primary, during the general election, and he keeps coming back. and so the strategy within the clinton campaign is to stay on message, stay on course, and part of that now, includes reaching out to women voters, trying to mobilize them in the wake of this 2005 audio tape that is so controversial and a new ad hitting donald trump that they are casting a non-apology last night. his failure to really be contrite. i think that's the strategy you're going to see moving forward. they're going to continue to hard hit on the all important women voters. >> you've been talking about the
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rumors of doubts about trump's comments, distancing himself from what pence said about syria. what will pence likely say when you see him at a rally later today in north carolina? >> reporter: well, andrea, we expect this will be a town hall for matt. that's what we're learning. it could give us a real glimpse between mike pence as sort of the emissary for donald trump. what we've seen is a bit of a stabilizing force since last night. the debate, mike pence saw something he wanted to see. he believes that donald trump went further than he ever had before in apologizing, and in showing some vulnerability by acknowledging that he was embarrassed. now, many critics will think it didn't go far enough. it wasn't genuine. but mike pence is looking at that section of the debate and what donald trump said as a reason to go forward, to see the
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possibility that voters might be for giving. now, that's from the mike pence point of view as someone who has counseled and worked with donald trump, trying to be partners and running mates. for mike pence, it is difficult. he is not in a position to step away when you are the running mate put through the convention, nominated formally, all of that. he is going to try to hit the battleground state the, try to get back to campaigning on issues, and trying to give republicans something to see, to talk about, maybe some reassurance, if that can be possible by getting on the trail. andrea. >> kelly o'donnell, peter alexander, and of course, kristin welker. just in, president obama tweeting on last night's debate, tweeting like michelle says, when they go low, we go high. hillary clinton went high and shows why she'll be president of the united states for all
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americans. that from president obama. coming up, the house divided, republicans forced to choose sides with their political futures on the line. that's next, here on "andrea mitchell reports." only on msnbc, the place for politics. it's the #1 pred sginhito atorks to wec. it's the #1 pred sginhito invokana is a pilled angt anexerse tsignifany wer bloosugar thmajority rched an c goal and of 7ercent or wer.rials, kana your body through the ocess of urinati it's not for lowerinsyolics kana youroreit,tt it m hwith bo, the ocess of urinati clududg dehyhyation, wch may cause you to feel diy, int, lightheadedor weak, upon standin her sid, genitayeasfections, anges in urition,
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welcome back here at westchester county airport. hillary clinton is on route. we're going to be flight out to detroit first, and then columbus, ohio, battleground state, and then back here tonight. then to florida, to miami, where she'll be campaigning for the first time with al gore. that's the end of registration, voter registration in florida. that's the ground game that she is focusing on. for the rest of the hour, i'm going to hand off to my colleague here, peter alexander. take it away, while i get on
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board. >> andrea mitchell, safe travels, we'll see you again soon. i'm joined by some friends in studio. tough talk from donald trump, and may have chased away some swing voters. >> we have a divided nation, because people like her, and believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart. when she said deplorables, she meant it. >> joining me now, "washington post," michael gerson, editor of the weekly standard, gentlemen, nice to see you. michael, as we were talking about just in this break right now, you think what happened last night was the worst possible outcome for republicans. why? >> well, we could have been at a tipping moment if he had done really poorly, where ryan and mcconnell may have come out and really changed the dynamic fundamentally. what he did was well enough with listeners of rush limbaugh or
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viewers of breitbart, doing exactly whathey would want him to do, shored up essentially the base, while doing absolutely nothing to do outreach to anyone else in the country. so he improved his position without actually improving the prospects of the party. it was fundamentally -- >> bill, what is your take. >> we don't really know that he reassured his base, but people who work for mike pence, a bunch of people who are so invested in pence who can't go any where else, or rudy giuliani, said they were reassured. i'm not so sure a fan of rush limbaugh was reassured by trump's explanation or apology. what about on a million issues, incidentally, the president is going to order the attorney general to appoint a special prosecutors. aren't there supposed to be rules, not ordered by the president to do it. go after someone you don't like. what about -- i'm thinking they
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did a good job of spinning after the debate, oh, well, we can't be dumped from the ticket, but why not. it is a failure of nerve of leading republicans if there is a chance to save the republican party. >> i know you have a relationship to mike pence, you've known him for decades. what did you hear from his inside world, and what a feasible solution? he did the shows today, and he said i'm on board, i'm proud of my man last night. >> it makes me feel sick honestly. i can't believe it is true. i have known him a long time. he feels he has to stay. if he says i'm going to resign from the ticket, other people -- tom eggleson, he resigned. i just cannot run with this man. he humiliated pence last night. he contradicted him. fine, he doesn't have to agree with his vice-president, but then what did mike pence say this morning.
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oh, my earlier remarks were misunderstood. he said in a nationally televised we should use force. i've always agreed with trump. pence is humiliating himself. the republican leaders are humiliating themselves to do what. they're going oh get clobbered any way. >> the wildcard factor is this is a guy that probably has more of a record, now. we haven't seen everything we're going to see, four weeks left. he is a depraved personality on this evidence. there will be a trail. not just a single event. i mean, republicans could be putting themselves on the line for absolutely nothing, if we get further revelations here, which is not impossible. >> in fact, there is a lot on the line. let's put you will the poll numbers out. this shows the nbc "wall street journal" poll, the 46-35. specifically on congress, they
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would prefer a democratic controlled congress. at the end of the day, as paul ryan had to explain with house republicans today, that's what the great fear is for many republicans in terms of what is at stake right now. >> i've always thought this was possible. and that would lead to a wave. the wave never manifested, it usually gets right around now and suddenly everyone looks up and says , whoa, the safe house seats? no one thought this in 2006, to you are weeks out. again, i just think the degree to which all these members think the only thing they can think about is themselves. paul ryan putting out proudly, he is distancing himself, telling every member to do what's right. really? calculating. try do the right thing.
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the races, political races are very hard and it is hard to figure out. you can't always say be pure morally, because that's not what politics is about. follow honor. the safest thing to do. >> michael, what should vulnerable republicans do right now? >> i agree with that. evangelicals should be speaking out for morals. >> michael, bill, nice to see both of you. we appreciate it. couple of more times, we should bring the band back together. the intel report, facts checking on trump's comments. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." she is now on the clinton plane. only on msnbc, the place for politics. fibeenled broaand toore an 65,000 fans.
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but i notice any time anything wrong happens, the
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russians -- she doesn't know if it is the russians. maybe there is no hacking. the reason they blame russia, because they're trying to tarnish me with russia. i know nothing about russia. i know about russia, but i know nothing about the inner workings of russia. i have no loans from russia. >> that was from the debate, donald trump denying russia is responsible for the recent hacks of democrats, which of course flies in the face of what intelligence officials announced last friday. joining me now, a ranking member of the house intelligence committee. congressman schiff, thank you for being here. you saw what he said last evening. let's get a real time fact check if i can, in terms of intelligence and other details that donald trump insists we don't know comes from the russians. >> well, he is flat wrong, and he should know better. he was given intelligence briefings, but even if he hadn't
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been, the director of national intelligence issued a very strong statement days before the debate basically saying the russians are doing this. they're hacking. they are interfering in our democratic process, and this comes from the highest levels of the kremlin. so for donald trump to get out there and hand the kremlin propaganda to say we don't know who is responsible is just appalling. but even beyond that, then to go on and say that in russia, i'm sorry, in sir yesyria, they're after isis, when they're bombing civilians, and trying to prop up the regime. this is exactly what the kremlin wants to hear, and it is so empithical to our process. >> they're doing it to try to influence the election for donald trump. maybe because he has praised putin.
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maybe because he said he agrees with what putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to do business in moscow. but we deserve answers. >> the thing that americans also ha have, hillary clinton demanding answers, a coziness with russia. donald trump has said hillary clinton for being responsible for the desired reset with russia and clearly will is evidence that never served the purpose that she desired. doesn't hillary clinton have to defend her own record as well? >> i think what secretary clinton did is exactly what you would want her to do, her tenure as secretary, it became clear it would not happen. and when it didn't, she was willing to stand up to the russians to compartmentalizeize, there will be time weiss can act in concert where we have a narrow interest aligned with them. but we need someone to stand up
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to rush that is now invading its neighbors like ukraine, bombing civilians, that is threatening our nato allies. we don't need someone who has such a thin ego that he will respond with praise for someone like this, merely because putin says something nice about him. >> donald trump appeared last night to struggle on the issue of foreign policy, specifically in relationship to syria right now. here is one exchange that he had with the moderator, martha raddatz last night. >> why do they have to say we're going to be attacking mosul within the next four to six weeks. how stupid is our country. >> there are sometimes reasons the military does that. psychological warfare. >> i can't think of any. >> it might be to help get civilians how the. >> look, i have 200 generals and admirals who endorsed me. i have 21 congressional medal of honor recipients who endorsed me. we talk about it all the time.
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>> donald trump says why are we so overt in our plans overseas, i have a plan, but not going to share it with the world. what's wrong with the strategy he is presenting now, given the mess the middle east is. >> the problem is he has no strategy, he has no secret plan. he made it clear i think just a month or so ago when he said perhaps in a slip, well, i would ask my generals to give me a plan. i have to think those generals and admirals that he is referring to that have supported him are mortified about what they hdone and what they have seen. so he has no strategy. he proposed last night that we do a sneak attack on mosul. a city of many of hundreds of thousands of people, civilians in harm's way, sneak in troops that would be necessary undercover of darkness without any kind of provision made for those that are being used as human shields. so he has no idea what he is doing. he is completely out of his depth, and this is a terrifying prospect and a commander in
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chief. that thin-skinned, that lack of judgment making war and peace decisions. >> you saw a live picture of hillary clinton at the westchester airport, heading to detroit, michigan, going to a voter registration event. andrea mitchell is on the plane and she'll cover the campaign stop, and the ones on the days ahead. coming up, pollster joining me to breakdown the numbers. next on "andrea mitchell reports," live only on msnbc. bring out the bo™
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hap. g aggressive performance in last night's debate, the new nbc news wall street report, significant damage. here are the numbers. 41% say that trump's words are completely unacceptable, while 31% say they're inappropriate,
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but typical of how some men talk in private. 52% disagree that trump's comments should not be an issue in this campaign, compare that to 42% who agree it should be an issue. 38% say it disqualifies trump from being president, while 42% say it does not disqualify him. and 67% of republican voters say they still support him as nominee versus 9% who can no lo longer support him and want him to drop out. for more, let's bring in peter hart, half of the nbc news "wall street journal" poll. to be clear, 500 interviews, a quick snapshot. what are the key takeaways. what should we be noticing from what we saw during the course of the weekend? >> let me start by saying my partner and his team did a fabulous job on this, along with the team at hart research.
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what it comes out is donald trump had a terrible period, and now, it is really hit bottom. he has only got 29% of the american public saying they have favorable views of him. he only has -- he has lost the majority of the college educated white male and that's a vote he has to have. >> i think mitt romney won by 14 points or something lik that. >> you got it exactly right. that's the whole problem. all day, all the keys, are just dropping out. and the point is, hillary's numbers are going up, and she has had her highest numbers since january. so both of those things are working together. as you said, quick poll, overnight. so we'll wait and see until tomorrow, and later in the week. but what it comes down to is essentially who is going to stick with him, and for the republican congressional group, those who split are in a terrible place, because the republican voters are still with
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trump. so where do you go. >> as your colleague told us, he is in a weaker position than the september track. it also does not mean he can't get these points back. let me put up the four-way race right now, that includes the laborer tli libertarian and green party, gary johnson at 9, and jill stein at two points. they've not benefited by not being on the debate stage, which has haunted them. the 35% number for donald trump is striking. everyone thought it won't take 50% to win the 270 electoral votes needed, but the 35% is striking. >> it is terrible. because essentially, you can't go lower than 35%. i mean, when you look at wipeout races, we talk about getting 40%. and obviously, you have a candidate, but donald trump needs to be at 42 to 45%.
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he is way below that. hillary clinton has improved her standing, and not only with women and she has a huge lead there, but also with men. >> to be clear, we're in the field right now, getting more reaction in the aftermath of last night's debate. peter, nice to see you. >> thank you. coming up, party problems, trump campaign leaving the door open and focused on survival. you're watching andrea mitchell report, msnbc, the place for politics. is und of sonhnoly politics. wes vs a manual toothbh and expericenamazing feel . . philips sonicare. save n when you buyyphips e .
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he was like right behind you? >> i could tell, yes. it was a very small space, and i tried to give him space when he was talking to people. i would go back and, you know, lean up against my stool, but he was very present. >> very present, hillary clinton there on the campaign plane late last night, the close encounter
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with her rival at the evening's debate. clinton, heading to detroit, boosted by her big lead. joining me now for our daily fix, "washington post," leslie laurie and ann gearan. let me ask you specifically about the idea of donald trump lurking last night. body language actually matters, and it didn't do george bush any good in 1992, simply looking at his watch. what did you make of that sort of -- the physicality, as it were, of the evening. >> it seemed completely intentional that trump was crowding her space on purpose to, i mean, a number of things could be potentially, right. he could be trying to rattle her. he could be trying to get her to look over her shoulder nervously. have her, you know, throw her off her game and make a mistake. or he could simply have been trying to own the stage. roam around and keep the camera and attention on him.
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i mean, it worked, sort of. she looked a little unnerved, slightly, but she kept her composure and stayed on message. >> leslie, within the last few minutes, a new tweet, head of communications in the trump campaign. jason miller, he writes, regarding today's congressional call, this is the call that was led by the house speaker, paul ryan, nothing has changed. he says mr. trump's campaign has always been powered by a grassroots movement, not by washington, for the audience yo joining us now, paul ryan basically saying there is no update to his position. he is not unendorsing donald trump. but he is certainly not going to campaign with him, and basically is saying to all republicans, vulnerable republicans, those in competitive races right now, do whatever you need to do to get reelected, our concern is the house majority. what do you make of the sort of advice that so many republicans are now facing as it relates to donald trump? >> it is a difficult dance that
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people like paul ryan are having to make and part of it is being self- inflicted. paul ryan to come out and say essentially to his members, you know, do what you need to do in your race, but that also kind of underscores the reality for some officials they need to run away from the republican nominee if the they are going to remain viable, while others is to cling to the nominee, that maybe trump could help rise them. this is a public spillover, obviously been a private struggle for a lot of republicans, and throughout the caucus on the hill as well, broadly across the country what, to do with the candidate who does not tote the line of conservative positions. >> beyond, the language that brought more than 50 republicans forward, either condemning, denouncing, some saying i'm going to vote for mike pence
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instead and asking for donald trump to drop out. here, kellyanne conway with "morning joe" on the topic, relating to those republicans. >> will there be any effort to get the republicans back? >> i hope so. we welcome them back. we would love their support. but we have their voter support. the fact is, if they don't come around and don't support their party nominee, that itself is incredible. >> we have the base support, but will that be enough for the republicans right now? it doesn't seem like enough for donald trump. the new poll has him hovering at 35%. >> double digit leads for clinton, even in a four-way race does not -- that does not bode well for republicans. many are clearly more than nervous. they are starting to panic. they don't know whether jumping ship or staying and baling is better. and i think one really, really interesting thing to watch over
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the next couple weeks is whether there is this amnesty declared. it's okay, you do what you think you have to do in your race and no harm, no foul. there are members for whom that would benefit. >> that's in fact what paul ryan is saying to many of them today. nice to see you. we appreciate it. coming up, how low can they go. the political attack gets personal. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports," the place for politics. schedules. eat,kay. wouldn't it f evyone idhat mea? e citi® doublcash cd es. wthciti doushard.one idhca b 1% wh you b as you pa 'll playomg besides vio mes. every y is a
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what was your reaction to that tape that came out with donald trump? >> well, i only saw bits and pieces of it. i did not see the whole thing. at first, my initial reaction was it was ugly. it doesn't bode well for women. how he thinks about women. but it swayed my vote, it will not. >> you heard one of several women andrea spoke to in
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st. louis about donald trump's comments on groping a woman. joining me now is stephanie shiarik, stephanie, i just want to get your take from the "access hollywood" tape, the first time we're able to speak with you since it exploded, and we sort of marinated in it over the weekend. what do you take, what do you take away from donald trump's language and ultimately, from his comments last night. no apology some would say, and he said i didn't do those things. they are words, no the actions. >> well, like so many americans across the country, when i saw the tape on friday night, i remember sitting down with my staff and we just ran out of words to talk about how disgusting and disappointing and awful and offensive it all is, and you could see that with the reactions of republicans across this country as well. i think what women voters in
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particular were looking for last night, and republican leaders, was donald trump to stand in front of everybody and say i'm sorry, and be a little contrite about it. and that is precisely what we did not get. i don't know why anybody should be surprised, since he started this campaign a year and a half ago, he has really laid the groundwork based on offensive language and attacking mexicans, muslims, women of all backgrounds. >> sure. >> it just continues and continues. this is just who he is. and it is also his actions, and that's what is so shocking about the audio and video from friday. i mean, here is someone who is bragging about in essence a sexual a saulassault, the viole is really damaging. >> let me ask you, because he said again, this is the point that donald trump makes, this is not violence. they were words. compare that he says to bill
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clinton's violent actions, as he says, sexual misconduct that's been unsubstantiated. but four women, invited by trump, what produced this really unique unprecedented confrontation last night. did these women have a point when they argue that hillary clinton is in fact an enabler in a situation like this? >> well, first, these aren't just donald trump's words. they are actions, and we've heard lots of women come up and talk about that. and here he is last night with the only thing he could possibly do, which is to go lower and bring in hillary clinton's marriage as an attack. this is precisely what republicans and i would argue, all of us, were warning him not do. republican leaders, don't go there. and he did. it was very dangerous. >> to play devil's advocate,
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hillary clinton supporters say donald trump shows his lack of fitness to be president. trump supporters would say the way that hillary clinton handled those past scandals, crises, demonstrates her lack of fitness. is that an unfair argument? >> i think you saw why hillary clinton is completely prepared to be president of the united states last night. with all of this chaos going on around her, she stood in front of the american people and made a case for her to be the president and in a calm, graceful manner, showing great leadership, talked about what voters really care about. which is how do we make this country even greater than it is. and that's where i just thought she shined last night. >> stephanie from emily's list, we appreciate you being with us. thank you for your time today. >> thank you. more ahead on "andrea mitchell reports," the place for politics. businessount on communicatn,nd communicationcou
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report reports". follow her show online, facebook, and on twitter, @mitchellreports. my friend, hallie jackson is up next. live from st. louis, good morning to you. hey, good afternoon, peter. i'm hallie jackson, live on the campus from washington university, the middle of what high level gop operative calling the self-implosion of the republican party. moments ago, trump's party responding to the news that paul ryan will not campaign with trump, with a tweet from the senior communications advisor, nothing has changed, says jason miller. mr. trump's campaign has always been powered by a grassroots movement, not washington. all of this, by the way, as a brand new poll released in the last hour from nbc news and "wall street journal" shows that hillary clinton is leading donald trump by 11 points in the
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four-way race, conducted after the release of the audio, but before the debate. i want to jump into reporters following the campaigns in the battleground state of north carolina and pennsylvania. let's get to kelly o'donnell in charlotte, where mike pence is scheduled to peek realspeak any now. i have to get your reaction after paul ryan said he will not defend or campaign with donald trump for the rest of the month, for of the rest of the cycle. it is kind of what hae been doing so far, thgh, right? >> reporter: it is, it is a continuation of a strategy paul ryan has had, and it has required re-visiting it with some of the disclosures that have put the trump/pence ticket from such peril. we know this is one of the ways mike pence will try to show that there is some stability returning to the ship by being here in north carolina, battleground state, by attending what we are told will be a town hall meeting. but paul ryan's